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talk:howtos:slackware_admin:systemupgrade [2012/09/25 01:57 (UTC)]
mfillpot moved page from howtos section 		talk:howtos:slackware_admin:systemupgrade [2012/10/01 20:36 (UTC)]
alienbob Explaining my revert of TommyC's edit.
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 Hi Niki. A fresh install is usually better if your upgrade would span multiple releases (for instance, 10.1 -> 13.37). But those cases are not supported by slackpkg anyway. I will add a note about this. Also I will stress that a new name should be used for a new initrd in order not to overwrite an existing initrd... \\ David, I will also expand a little about .new files. \\  --- //[[wiki:user:alienbob|Eric Hameleers]] 2012/09/21 04:48// Hi Niki. A fresh install is usually better if your upgrade would span multiple releases (for instance, 10.1 -> 13.37). But those cases are not supported by slackpkg anyway. I will add a note about this. Also I will stress that a new name should be used for a new initrd in order not to overwrite an existing initrd... \\ David, I will also expand a little about .new files. \\  --- //[[wiki:user:alienbob|Eric Hameleers]] 2012/09/21 04:48//
 +>> Just saw the changes you made regarding initrd and .new files (I must have missed the updates in the recent changes list). Thankyou for addressing those little concerns.  --- //[[wiki:user:allend|David Allen]] 2012/09/26 08:05// 
 I used a [[https://noctslackv1.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/slackware-current-goes-beta-and-i-upgrade-now/|somewhat different method]] when I upgraded a couple months back. However, I like your method and may try it next year when Pat officially sets Current to Beta again for 15. :-)  --- //[[wiki:user:nocturnal.slacker|V. T. Eric Layton]] 2012/09/21 18:13// I used a [[https://noctslackv1.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/slackware-current-goes-beta-and-i-upgrade-now/|somewhat different method]] when I upgraded a couple months back. However, I like your method and may try it next year when Pat officially sets Current to Beta again for 15. :-)  --- //[[wiki:user:nocturnal.slacker|V. T. Eric Layton]] 2012/09/21 18:13//
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 +Hi Eric. Very nice job. Just a question here: shouldn't slackpkg be updated using the slackware media before its first usage? My reasoning is that at the first usage the mirrors file won't have 14.0 mirrors for example if I'm upgrading from 13.37 to 14.0.   --- //[[wiki:user:escaflown|escaflown]] 2012/09/28 21:18//
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 +I believe, its worth to mention that, the user must change the file in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors ,to make sure that the version link, they are trying is in the list.
 +I just blanked for some minutes, when I did the upgrade process, since every thing for 13.37 is up-to-date. After changing a mirror link to 14.0, things started to progress... - [[http://docs.slackware.com/wiki:user:crond|crond]]
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 +> Hi crond, I hope I addressed your concerns properly in my update. \\  --- //[[wiki:user:alienbob|Eric Hameleers]] 2012/10/01 13:23//
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 +TommyC, please respect the [[slackdocs:styleguide#policy_rule|policy rule]] and suggest your changes in the discussion page instead of recklessly editing an article which is not yours. I have issues with these additions: \\ 
 +//You can also blacklist packages that you don't want to upgrade.// <code>
 +hal                     # hald is no longer in Slackware 14.0 and above, but some may still want it.
 +kde/*                   # This will blacklist all the packages in the kde directory of the slackware tree.
 +kdei/*                  # Although you can use wildcards as shown above and on this line, it is NOT recommended.
 +xfce/*                  # The xfce directory is new in Slackware 14.0. In 13.37 and below, xfce is its own package.
 +</code> First, __**not**__ removing ''hal'' is an advice I do not want to see in an upgrade guide. Instead, it should be listed as a suggestion in this article's discussion page. \\ Second, the use of //asterisks// in the ''slackpkg'' blacklist does not work reliably (for instance it will not have the desired effect on the ''slackpkg install-new'' command). Therefore it does not belong in article which promises the reader a "painless" upgrade. \\ Also, why would you want to blacklist KDE and XFCE? If you did not have it installed, it will not be upgraded anyway, you don't have to blacklist it. And anyway, with a blacklist in place the ''slackpkg install-new'' command will still list all the new KDE and XFCE packages, which will lead to confusion. \\  --- //[[wiki:user:alienbob|Eric Hameleers]] 2012/10/01 13:23//
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